Birmingham, Al (WIAT) There’s a tangled web of internet speculation surrounding the as yet unreleased move "Me and Mr. Jones" by Dutch filmmaker Paul Ruven. What, if any, are Ruven’s connections to Renee Gielen, a film maker from Curacao?  Why should anyone in Alabama care about a Dutch film maker and a producer from Curacao?

Ruven is making a fiction movie about a reporter investigating Joran van der Sloot and his assumed role in the Natalee Holloway disappearance in Aruba five years ago. The Mountain Brook teen disappeared on a graduation trip to the island…she was reportedly last seen in the company of van der Sloot.

The case was an international sensation and has stayed in or near the headlines ever since. The treatment by the news media has been calm compared to the five years of furor and fury online.

On one side….defenders of Joran van der Sloot and the Aruban authorities who consider him a prime suspect in Natalee’s disappearance but have never charged him. That defense consists mainly of character attacks on Natalee and her mother Beth Holloway Twitty.

Prominent among those pressing that case is Renee Gielen, a film maker from Curacao who produced a 2008 documentary entitled "Natalee, The Unrevealed Time Lines"….a title that morphs on screen to "Natalee, The Unrevealed Time Lies."  The film was widely attacked on line as a cover up and vicious attack on Natalee and her family. Others saw it as a defense of both the van der Sloot family and Aruban authorities.

But isn’t that ancient history….hashed out on blogs and websites for years?

The story exploded back into prominence when Joran van der Sloot was charged with the murder of Stephany Flores…a 21 year old student found dead in van der Sloot’s Lima, Peru hotel room...five years to the day of Natelee’s disappearance.

And all the arguments are back again…this time charging various connections between Gielen and Ruven. A central figure in those arguments is cinematographer Dolph van Stapele, reportedly Ruven’s director of cinematography on Me and Mr. Jones and who had the same role in Gielen’s documentary…routinely referred to as a “crockumentary” by Holloway family advocates online.

There’s also a common thread that von Stapele is Gielen’s son.

Here’s a sampling of some of the online comments:

From a site called Refugees Unleashed:  

Imladris wrote: There are gazillions of good cameramen, so why would you choose someone thas was affiliated with a shabby work like Renee's piece?

Nomdeguerre replied: Maybe because you use whoever you can get and Van Stapele or whatever his name is was on Aruba or available to go? If he worked on Renee Gielen's film, he would be familiar with Aruba, which doesn't hurt when you're filming (the light, the weather, etc.). I didn't not see Renee Gielen's documentary and so cannot comment on what's in it, but I see nothing suspicious about the fact that the same cameraman might have worked on both.

Here’s another exchange between Imladris and another poster, Black-Tulip:

Black-Tulip: All I said was it looked like Stapele was involved in Gielen's alleged documentary. I don't know if he is her son, and I don't know if he is also working on Ruven's film. If he worked on Gielen's piece of crap and he also is working on Ruven's film, then like I said, I would consider that highly suspicious and it would make me inclined to dismiss the film as bs.

Imladris replied: All I said was it looked like Stapele was involved in Gielen's alleged documentary. I don't know if he is her son, and I don't know if he is also working on Ruven's film. If he worked on Gielen's piece of crap and he also is working on Ruven's film, then like I said, I would consider that highly suspicious and it would make me inclined to dismiss the film as bs.

And here’s a comment posted to "Explosive quotes from van der Sloot / Holloway movie maker" here on CBS42.com:

In the ditch - 8/7/2010 12:48 PM: he title of the original RNW article implies Ruven's film "searches for the truth" about Natalee Holloway's disappearance. What is not immediately obvious in the article is that Ruven was involved in another "trash and bash documentary" about Natalee Holloway produced by Renee Gielen. As taken from the posts: I think it goes like this..... Paul Ruven, the director of the new movie, was also the director of Renee Gielen's documentary. Dolph van Stapele, the director of photography and cinematographer, is Renee Gielen's son. Renee Gielen is Anita Van der Sloot's cousin. etc, etc, etc. So much for objectivity. Unfortunately (for Ruven), Joran went to Peru in the middle of the filming and put a serious kink in their story line. I know that people eat up sensationalistic films, but my gut feeling is to boycott this film.

So….what’s the relationship between Renee Gielen, Dolph van Stapele and Paul Ruven? How much, if any, of this speculation and online chatter is true?

CBS42.com has requested an interview with Ruven to clear all this up. He e-mailed us saying he’d get back to us. We’re still waiting.  We've also attempted to reach Gielen.  We'll keep you posted.