Minio2010, why dont you just write a book. My goodness I really like how I can get under your skin. Your my number one fan! Go Minio2010,Go!

One last comment to you Boycoyt. *** You claim to be a women living in America and the wife of a pastor. Let's say one day you're traveling to somewhere on vacation, I have no idea what you do or where you live, so let's just say disney world with a couple of other women and their children from your church. You fly down to Florida and check into the hotel. After feeding the kids cheeseburgers, you put them to bed and go into the hotel restaurant to grab an adult dinner. In the restaurant, you run into none other than JVDS. You talk to him because he's interesting. You've been following his life story and believe he's been wrongly persecuted. Eventually, your friends go back to their room and you and JVDS mosey over to the bar for a coke (no alcohol) and more chatting. *** The next morning, your friends can't find you. They look all over the hotel. They call the police. They interview the bar staff. No one has seen you. Eventually the police see videotapes of you and JVDS. A week later he's in Canada claiming to have left you in the bar with 2 men. He says you were drunk and making out with him. Kissing, fondling, etc. Then he says you two went to the beach to make out. Then he says you went into a convulsion and died. Then he says he sold you into slavery. *** 5 years later, your husband, children, friends, etc still don't know what happened to you. But JVDS is caught red handed murdering another young woman. How would you feel about some idiot calling themselves tyocyob writing "JVDS didn't murder boycoyt, he's not that bad. He just sold her into slavery. She's alive and well in another country getting what she deserved for speaking to a strange man in a bar. The FBI staged the rest". If that were true and you were taken from your church group and literally raped by multiple people every day of your life for the next 5 years, would you say "oh tyocyob, JVDS is a good kid. At least he didn't murder me" or would you say BURN IN HELL JVDS?

Some similarities to think about in Jorans stories. ******** One security guard was waiting at the hotel and took Natalee (and two were arrested fyi!). Two men were waiting in the hotel and killed Stephanie. [note both lies involved 2 strange mean appearing at a hotel. Notice both lies blamed the men for the crime. On an aside note, it's interesting that both lies were dispelled with videotape and once Joran was made aware of that, the "strange men" stories ceased]. ******** One person in Aruba(Daury)disposed of the body. One person (Elton) lured Joran to Peru. [one man contributed to the situation. "Go find him. He has the answers"]. ******* Joran claimed Deepak raped Natalee. Joran tried to stage a rape of Stephany. [Both cases have elements of lying about sex crimes] ******** Natalee went into convulsions and stopped breathing. Stephanie was accidently choked to death with Jorans shirt. [strangulation is probably a tiny element of truth JVDS included to confuse the Boycoyts of the world. Both women "accidently" couldn't breathe anymore]. ******** Natalee dressed like a S*%t, was a racist, and hated her mom. Stephanie snooped and intruded where she didn't belong [implying both women deserved whatever they got]. ******** The police in Aruba beat me, says Joran. The police in Peru threatened me says Joran. [implying the mixing of lies and truth wasn't Joran's fault, it was the police. Joran simply made statements to prevent being tortured]. ******** Joran was a poker expert and helped Natalee win money back. Joran was a poker expert and showed Stephany how to play online poker. [In both cases, Joran is a gambling expert and he's helping or teaching women about playing poker] ******** there are many more similarities but I'm running out of space and patience. Let me end with this one. According to Boycoyt, Joran was framed in Aruba. According to Boycoyt, Joran was framed in Peru. [notice 1 guy framed twice for death or disappearance of women?]

Since we're posting theories here how about this. Joran and his two cronies PLANNED to abduct, rob, and rape a young woman on vacation. They showed up at a bar 15min before it closed and picked Natalee out of the crowd. They convinced her that Joran was also on vacation and staying at the hotel. Talked her into catching a ride back to the hotel with them where they would continue partying. A few minutes into the drive, Joran attacked Natalee. Sexually at first, kissing, fondling, etc, then he strangled her in the car while they were driving. After robbing her, the three hid her body and went their seperate ways to create alibis. The next day after school, they permanently disposed of her by dumping her body in the ocean. Then they started lying. A slight of hand trick orchestrated by Joran. Give the cops too many false stories and the truth would never be known. People like Boycoyt would perpetuate the BS right? Perhaps the cronies weren't in on the rape part of the plan. Perhaps they didn't realize Joran would kill her in the car. But, since he did, they were all a part of what happened and had to protect themselves so they kept their mouths shut and let the world wonder. ********** In Peru, Joran was broke and desperate. Stephany had money and every thing going for her. So Joran watched her for a while. Then lured her to his room (probably with the pretense of selling a laptop). Once inside, he planned to kill her and steal her money. Probably to get enough $ to eat and pay the $2000 entrance fee to the poker tournament (deadline was <20 hours away). In addition, he had success extorting cash from Natalee's family and the press and he probably figured Stephany's "disappearance" would pay off too. But, because Stephanie fought back, whereas Natalee didn't, the mess was more than our cunning JVDS planned for and he panicked and fled the scene. Then of course, came the lies. See any similarities in the lies?

It's taken way too long.

Troll whatever you wish boycoyt. It doesn't matter anymore. JVDS will spend the next 30+ years in a peruvian hole. When he gets out, they'll send his carcass to the states where he'll be locked up for another 20 years for extortion. Which of course will be an upgrade from his current situation. He'll be 70+ when he is finally set free to rape, rob and murder more women. Joran is finished.

in id-discovery under the topic:this is my Natalee Holloway theory,everyone is welcome to depurate different ways about what happened.

I believe this guy had something to do with the disappearance of the American,but I dont beleive he killed her.He has a strong gambling addition,this can lead to just about anything to get money to play with.I think he sold her off to someone he has connections with,I think he had been trying to get enough courage up to do it,and the american girl was his money ticket.I beleive this woman she still alive and beening held in sex-slavery.Its been told when you are took you will never been seen. Thats why he laughs when it comes to people saying they found her body,he knows she isnt dead. As for the peru woman I beleive he was set up for this,to pay for the american girl. I will never beleive this guy is stupid enough to kill her in a motel,and leave her.Dont add up.Someone is behind this.